Elo added!
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completely agree with @Molfo , and also i would like to add that it seems weird to me that getting second in 3/4 player games gives little to no ELO, at least that's how it looks but i'm not sure that's actually true so i thought just as on BGA it should be displayed the ELO that we gain on each game so we could check how much we gain from being in that particular position against those particular opponents
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@Molfo good point on the "last man standing". We were assuming that the others were finishing the game in any case.
We will introduce the ability to cancel the game if some dropped.Regarding the elo mechanism
If you dropped during the game, you will loose against every other not dropped player.
If some of your opponents dropped during the game, you will win against them, but the matches against the other opponents are not considered for the elo.
@Babbuc49 if you are second in a 3 player game you win one match and you lose the other. So, given that now the elos are similars, your elo is not changing that much.
We are adding the ability to check the elo transactions in the roadmap! -
@Babbuc49 you can now check on recently finished games the elo changes. The players elo in those games' sidebar will be displayed as 130 + 25 elo for example, that means that the elo of the player went from 130 to 155.
Check https://www.boardgamers.space/game/Modern-dreams-4423
We're also planning to add a page with all the elo changes for a particular game, but that's for later.
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Sorry, I have another elo-related problem: I was playing a game in which one of the player dropped (https://www.boardgamers.space/game/Quick-surface-1392).
So, since when I asked I was told that games where players have dropped are not considered for elo, I told the other players that I was not interested in carrying on with the match, and I let my time run out as well. So the game ended, and now it has taken away 33 points of my elo. Unfair! What happened???
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[edit] I just noticed that I lost more ELO points than the player who dropped before me! And the other two players still got ELO points for finishing the game. How is that fair?
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@Molfo In a game where a player drops out, the players who dropped lose elo and the other players gain elo but only against the players that dropped out.
Since you dropped out, you lost elo against the two players who dropped out. You didn't lose / gain elo against kimmiboy2.
The reason you lost more elo than kimmiboy2 is that your elo was higher, so when losing against the same opponents, you lose more elo.
It's detailed in this page: https://www.boardgamers.space/page/elo
If you dropped during the game, you will lose against every other not dropped player.
If someone else dropped during the game, you will win against the dropped player, but the matches against the other opponents are not considered for the elo.Anway, when one other player drops, you have a choice:
- Continue the game (you can pass each round if you want) and win elo against the dropped player
- Drop out and you lose elo against each player who continued
- Vote to cancel, and ask the other players to vote to cancel. You will win elo against the player who dropped. Maybe you can vote to cancel, pass, and the other players can vote to cancel then if they want.
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Ok, to me this wasn't clear at all. My understanding was that after the first player dropped, the other players taking part in the game could not lose elo in any way, even if they dropped. Had I known this, I would never have left the game .
Now that I read back what you wrote me last time, I see that the misunderstanding came from the fact that you said "If someone else dropped during the game, you will win against the dropped player, but the matches against the other opponents are not considered for the elo", where the word player is singular, so I thought, after the first one is gone (the original culprit!), the rest is not important.
Next time I'll do as you suggest, I'm just sorry I've lost 33 elo points over a technicality.
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@Molfo I added back the 33 elo points. (Just this once! I'm editing the post to make things clearer)
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Thanks a lot! Sorry, maybe the elo rules were clear enough, it's just me being dumb. That wouldn't be a first.
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Ranking?
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@coyotte508 said in Elo added!:
Drop out and you lose elo against each player who continued
This can’t be an option in GP. If other player do not want to close the game, you are forced to continue not to be dropped. I can’t play thinking if other players can drop. When a player drops, the game is over.
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Yeah that's what I thought at first, but then again, Coyotte is right when he says that you just have to pass each round and won't be losing elo anyways.
That is fair towards people who still want to continue playing even when somebody has dropped. I agree with you that, for me, a game is over as soon as a player drop, but many users here like to keep on playing. And after all it is just a minor nuisance having to click the "pass" button 3 or 4 times...