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    • B Offline
      Babbuc49
      last edited by

      One complaint i often heard from newer players is the absence of building costs displayed on the player board, maybe that’s something you could think about adding in the graphic update, also i would like to add that giving the option of switching between the more abstract layout and the more realistic one is something i’ve never seen on any online boardgame implementation and it’s really great !

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        Molfo
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        I agree with riverhorse that the new colours are really harsh.

        I like the way the new buildings look on the map and on the faction tiles, but the turn boosters, power/ciq actions and tech tiles do actually make one's eyes sore.

        (though I agree on the fact that having graphic rather than textual cues on the boosters and techs is an improvement... it only needs some restyling imho).

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          coyotte508
          last edited by coyotte508

          What do you think about these changes?

          -> Stronger building shadow on the map
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          -> Muted resource on tracks, shadow on the player tokens on the tracks, bigger player tokens, smaller tech tiles, more space between tech tiles and the research tracks, grey background on tech tiles, actions below research / scoring board
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          -> Stronger buildings shadow on the player board
          -> Muted resources on the player board
          -> Different booster color
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            theriverhorse
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            I really like the darker shadows on the board!

            I would adjust the width of the tech tiles so they match the tech track. They appear to be floating and don’t associate with the board.

            Might have to reduce the size of the imagery on them to fit, but I think it would be a huge improvement to have everything line up.

            Also, could we code it so that the tech tiles back ground color match the same color as the tech track? I know that isn’t in the board game, but would be an easy visual association we could do on this platform.

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              coyotte508
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              @theriverhorse

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              • Joe LionheartJ Offline
                Joe Lionheart
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                Sorry, my english is bad, I'm from Hannover, Germany. :-)
                The graphics are great! A huge compliment!
                Of course, graphics and symbols can be read international. That's a big advantage.
                I hope, US-Americans know the meaning of "international" ... ;-)

                Great site!
                Joe
                (Flavour-Text: I'm a (not very significant) member of the team, that developed Terra Mystica and all around it since 2011. And I'm happy to see all you boardgame-freaks playing it on and on.)

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                  coyotte508
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                  Here is some progress, drop shadows on tech tiles / federation tiles / boosters:

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                  • Joe LionheartJ Offline
                    Joe Lionheart
                    last edited by

                    Thumbs-up!
                    I think, important values, for example the vp on round-boosters or federation-tiles, could be bigger (against the margin or cut the edges), because they are really interesting. :-)

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                      cneessen
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                      @coyotte508 Attached is a mockup I created quickly in powerpoint (horrible spacing/alignment/etc.). I created it mostly just to get it out of my system as I was curious what it would look like.

                      What I did:

                      • Tryout with the basic tech tiles using the same icons you already use consistently across the game. So instead of saying "+4c" on a tech tile, I used the coin icon you use elsewhere (e.g. eco tree).
                      • Some icons didn't exist yet so I tried creating them using a similar 'style' as the current ones. Simple, and without too much frills to keep it readable on a small screen

                      Not quite sure how I feel about it myself, but perhaps it's of use for you so I'm sharing it here regardless. Hope it helps and keep up the awesome work, it's much appreciated!

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                        theriverhorse
                        last edited by

                        Running stream of thoughts:

                        -Arrows and plus signs should be smoother icons. check some options here that fit thematically: https://www.freepik.com/search?dates=any&format=search&page=1&query=arrow&selection=1&sort=popular&type=icon

                        -On Mobile "PASS" on booster tiles and advanced tiles gets compressed.

                        -RD scoring: Would shade them from light to dark R1> R6, helps visualize progression

                        -The Gaiaformer icon should match the gaiaformer icon on players boards and on the map

                        https://www.freepik.com/free-icon/hexagon_916872.htm#page=1&query=hexagon&position=3
                        This Icon would work nicely on players boards as there are 3 'Gaiaformers'
                        0 Gaia formers all 3 icons are hollow
                        1 Gaia former and 1/3 icons up in player color on board
                        3 Gaia formers and 3/3 icons indicated in player color on board
                        If gaia former is off player board and on map corresponding Icon could be in grey scale.

                        -the VP Gear icon has too many edges for small screens, esp on the boosters - would opt for a simpler icon? Is it a vector image? Could explain compression. A star has less points and would fit thematically, plus other games use stars as a VP icon
                        https://www.freepik.com/free-icon/star-with-five-rounded-points_692623.htm#page=1&query=points&position=4

                        • IF using gear icon (or another Icon) it should be matched within score tracker. ex: If White has 45 VP, it should be indicated by a 45 in a red gear next to their name inside the score tracker. This way a player can associate the red gear with Total score.

                        -Personal Pref: Would keep the clipped top right corner on tech tiles and advanced tech tiles.
                        The Power Actions and QIC actions should be purple or green respectively

                        I hope this is helpful, I really love this game and am so stoked there is this version I can play it on. You guys are doing an amazing job and I appreciate your openness thus far with the community.

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                          Robert Shepherd @cneessen
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                          @cneessen
                          Interesting effort but it seems that in your attempt to make things consistent, you have made them confusing. Too many undifferentiable geometric shapes. To me it looks more confusing than just text. The colour system also doesnt feel consistent with the rest of the game. The original bright colours might seem too garish but throwing them away in favour of non related colours seems to go in the wrong direction.

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                            Robert Shepherd @theriverhorse
                            last edited by

                            @theriverhorse
                            Not sure about your other suggestions but the idea of using a gear was to reference the irl game points (which is based on a gear). That said, a star for vp might work too. I will think about it and see if I can work up an example.

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                              cneessen @Robert Shepherd
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                              @Robert-Shepherd Yeah I don't think that using the planet/building icons like that works well in combination with the current resource icons. Too many squares and circles, circles in circles, and squares inside of circles. Even if you write it out it's confusing :)

                              Sidenote: It's a mockup made in powerpoint so you'd have to imagine the colors being the same as used on the current tech tree.

                              That said, I do like the simpler icons without perspective and gradients overall much better considering the overload of information that the board tries to convey to the user. I'm not saying I like my icon proposals better, cause I don't think they are any good. But that the style of the current icons matches the platform (mobile) the game is played on better, in my opinion.

                              What's interesting, to me, if you compare the current (text based) with the new updated visual style proposal is that my attention is directed to different things.

                              • Currently the one thing that stands out are the players positions on the tech track. I find this very useful information to get at a glance. Players positions on the track change all the time and noticing these changes quickly is nice.
                              • In the updated style my eyes are drawn more to everything around the board (tech, advanced tech, and round scoring). For me personally that's less important to get at a glance as this information stays the same from game setup to the end.

                              Good luck with the next steps!

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                                zuli
                                last edited by

                                Hey,
                                We have a first draft of the revised UI ready for test.

                                You can see it and play with it in the dev site .

                                To enable the new UI you need to select the Use alternate UI option in the panel
                                Screenshot 2020-07-01 at 12.10.59.png

                                This alternate UI is also using the 3D buildings, and you can switch to the flat buildings
                                checking the Use flat buildings option in the panel.

                                Let us know your feedback!

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                                  lucardoso288 @zuli
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                                  @zuli i used to play at Firefox mobile. Some imagens doesnt load there. Love It.

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                                    zuli @lucardoso288
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                                    @lucardoso288 could you please post a screenshot?

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                                      lucardoso288
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                                        coyotte508 @lucardoso288
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                                        @lucardoso288 It should largely be fixed now (except for one of the QIC action, but it's going to be fixed too).

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